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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 5, 2011 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 72 Video (to me, anyway)

I've read a couple of different takes over the years on why this bad boy never made official release; unfortunately I can't recall the details but it certainly didn't have anything to do with the quality of the performance. Although I have made good-natured fun of John Dwork's somewhat hysterical review of the Veneta show in the Taping Compendium Vol.1 (it would make my top 10 for '72, but not my top 5), it's still a *tremendous* show. There are enough bootlegged copies of the film floating around that you shouldn't have too much trouble locating one.

Check out the baby and the dog at the beginning of Jack
Straw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Daydream

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 5, 2011 5:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 72 Video (to me, anyway)

Well, the Dead own the music, but the filmmakers own the film. (The Dead themselves rejected any 'official' release at the time.) So they'd have to work out some financial agreement, if they haven't already; and of course whenever it is done, I'm sure they'd put it out as a full set with CDs, DVD-bonus interviews, etc.
Why such a release didn't happen years ago is beyond me, so I assume money is the sticking-point for someone...

From a David Lemieux interview in 2009:

JPG: Any news on a release of Veneta ’72?

DL: I’m sure that people are working on it. I always say that because I’ve been watching people work on it now for six or eight years. For 1972 a representation of the band it’s certainly one of the coolest. Whether it’s one of the coolest or not is irrelevant, it’s one of the only. Also, it happened to be a good show. Unfortunately, the movie’s only 70 or 90 minutes. It’s not the whole show. I’m saying unfortunately, but from 1972 it would be nice to see five minutes of material like that. I definitely think that people way higher up than me are working on that kind of arrangement. I hope so.
Hopefully, someday it’s released only because I know that some people would like to see it. And also, the Dead have the 16-track audio. That’s the thing I’ve always looked forward to. I think the video’s good. I like it. But, what I’ve always looked forward to is a surround sound mix of the “Dark Star” because we have the 16-track audio. That, to me, would be worth the price of admission, to hear a DTS or Dolby Digital surround sound mix of that.

JPG: Yes. That would be very nice.

DL: Honestly, I don’t know how further along it was since the last time you asked [back in 2005] only because I don’t hear anything. And it’s the kind of thing where should it ever go into an agreement level then I would probably just get the call saying, ‘Okay, we need to get the tapes up to a mixing person.’ That would be my involvement.

JPG: Is this the type of thing where with Rhino involved now and its team of lawyers they could make something like this become a reality?

DL: You are completely right. That’s exactly the kind of thing that they are very equipped to do…I don’t know much more than GDP, but definitely they are much equipped to do that kind of thing. They’re the kinds of people who can make something like that happen. The video is under 90 minutes but the show is almost three hours, I guess. So, what would be cool would be the whole movie and then the CD as a separate release. Not separate but maybe an included release – the three-CD release from the multi-track mix. That would be pretty cool.

Some more info on the film was included in my post:
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2009/08/pre-74-dead-films.html

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-06-06 00:11:56

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 5, 2011 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 72 Video (to me, anyway)

"The video is under 90 minutes but the show is almost three hours, I guess. So, what would be cool would be the whole movie and then the CD as a separate release. Not separate but maybe an included release – the three-CD release from the multi-track mix. That would be pretty cool."
What a lovely idea. I'll second that emotion and thanks for the info on that LIA.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 5, 2011 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New 72 Video (to me, anyway)

As always a font of information.

Thanks.